Easter is Coming… I Mean Eostre…

Have you ever hear a Christian say something like,”I wish people would remember the true meaning of Easter”? I have. Actually, I was one of the people saying it. ๐Ÿ™‚ I saw the bunnies and candy eggs as an attack on Christian values and as the commercialisation of the “resurrection”.

Now I see it differently. Did you ever notice that the Easter holiday is very near the Vernal Equinox? Spring, when everything comes back to life… That is odd. Jesus came back to life on or near the first day of spring. It almost sounds symbolic, doesn’t it?

Anyway, I have read in several different places that the word “Easter” comes from the word “Eostre”, the name of a fertility goddess. I can see it. What better time to have a fertility holiday than the start of Spring? And what better symbols for fertility than rabbits and eggs?

So, maybe Christians should stop lamenting their hijacked holiday and realise it was never really theirs…

Happy Eostre everybody. May your lives be fertile. ๐Ÿ™‚

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13 responses to “Easter is Coming… I Mean Eostre…

  1. Chris Jensen Romer

    Eostre never existed ๐Ÿ™‚ This IS my area — http://jerome23.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/eostre-never-existed-why-easter-is-not-a-pagan-holiday/
    Hope amuses!

    cj x

  2. Chris Jensen Romer

    But celebrate Easter/Eostre/the Equinox however you want – because there is nothing wrong with that! ๐Ÿ™‚

    cj x

  3. I will have to do some more reading I guess. ๐Ÿ™‚
    Though it does seem odd that Easter would take place in the spring and have symbols of fertility attract to it, but not be a fertility holiday… Hmmm…

  4. Ok. I have done some more reading. I don’t buy your essay. No offence. ๐Ÿ™‚ It looks like Easter and Christmas have this in common, they were both appropriated by the Church to win converts. Here is a link to a site that talks about it a bit…
    http://packham.n4m.org/easter.htm

    There is so much information on this subject that it is hard to believe that anyone could think that Easter was originally a Christian holiday.

  5. โ€I wish people would remember the true meaning of Easter.”

    What’s funny is I’ve been a Christian for a long time and I’ve never said that, but I do know Christians who say things like that and I find them equally annoying and weird.

  6. I don’t have a problem accepting Eostre as the origin. I’m not saying it is, but it fits with the trend throughout time. The church did the same thing with gargoyles. The grotesque pagan icons were said to “scare the evil spirits away” and are a handy rainwater spouts, to boot.

    Of course, I don’t really see it as sinister. I just see it as an attempt to relate the truth to whatever the group of people, pagans or whatever, happen to be familiar with.

    Happy Eostre!

    I’ll tell you the real tragedy. The plastic easter basket grass. Christmas is no better… plastic garland. I just had to take my dog to the vet last week b/c she ate a pile of plastic xmas garland in our storage room. I wish people would remember the TRUE meaning of greenery…. bloody Christians. ๐Ÿ˜€

  7. Chris Jensen Romer

    Dude, taht link is total tosh. Try looking at actual sceptical sites, or ones about history and archaeology. In fact ask this question on http://www.rationalskepticism.org, http://forums.randi.org/ (James Randi’s site) or look it up on the old Richard Dawkins forum. I have been biuting thsi crap for years -0 other people who actually have studied it and know what they are talking about are noted Australian atheist writer Timothy O Neil, or if you prefer the excellent British (pagan as it happens – Druid) Professor Ronald Hutton, Professor of History at Bristol University. If you read my essay you will see why it’s nonsense. Check out the Mithras link to see more ๐Ÿ™‚ Yes spring is associated with fertility in NORTHERN EUROPE and the uSA – it’s lambing season. Do you think that applies to middle Eastern agriculture? It varies with the microclimate and geographical position dude. ๐Ÿ™‚ It’ sjuts historical nonsense only really promulgated since the early 19th century. Don’t believe everything you read on the web – you need a crash course in scepticism!

    cj x

  8. Chris, you are right. After more reading I am having a hard time finding “proof” for the Easter claim.

    But I still have to wounder what fertility has to to with the โ€œresurrectionโ€ of Jesus.

  9. Hey Chris, I see in your link that you believe Christmas NOT to be of pagan origin. What data do you have on that. How do you explain the tree, presents, mistletoe, the colors, and its alignment with the winter solstice?

  10. Chris, I found you last comment difficult to comprehend due to the misspelling, and grammar. In future comments would you mind terribly proof reading before submitting?
    Not to condemn, but honestly, I have a very hard time making sense of what has been
    poorly written

  11. Chris Jensen Romer

    Yes sorry about that. I was responding in haste before leaving for the week (and now two weeks later am back again). Christmas, Zeb? No mystery why it was chosen — in fact I may as well paste the bit from my blog as it is very short —

    Why did early Christians choose to celebrate Christโ€™s birthday on December 25th? Well not all did. To this day different Christian Churches celebrate Christmas on different days โ€“ the Orthodox Christmas is January 7th. However in the west the festival has been fixed at December 25th since the early Third Century. So why?

    The world was believed to have been created on March 25th โ€“ Adamโ€™s birthday. Jesus as โ€œSecond Adamโ€ (see Pauline Epistles) was assumed to share this birthday initially. So March 25th was probably the original birthdate celebrated. Being a Prophet, he was also believed, in accordance with custom, to have been born and died (like Shakespeare) on the same day. Passover may well have fallen on March 25th, so the Crucifixion was then, so again, Jesusโ€™ birthday by this logic!

    All Christian antiquity (against all astronomical possibility) recognized the 25th of March as the actual day of Our Lordโ€™s death. The opinion that the Incarnation also took place on that date is found in the pseudo-Cyprianic work De Pascha Computus, c. 240. It argues that the coming of Our Lord and His death must have coincided with the creation and fall of Adam. And since the world was created in spring, the Saviour was also conceived and died shortly after the equinox of spring

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01542a.htm

    So the jump is from birth to conception โ€“ add nine months to March 25th, and lo! December 25th! All entirely based on Jewish contemporary thinking; if conceived not born on March 25th, Jesus was born on December 25th. Wot no Mithras??? ๐Ÿ™‚

    Around 400CE St. Augustine wrote in On The Trinity

    For He is believed to have been conceived on the 25th of March, upon which day also he suffered; so the womb of the Virgin, in which he was conceived, where no one of mortals was begotten, corresponds to the new grave in which he was buried, wherein was never man laid, neither before him nor since. But he was born, according to tradition, upon December the 25th.

    So there, that is the real,and fairly odd ot our minds reasoning that led Christmas Day to be on December 25th โ€“ nothing to do with pagan festivals upon that date, of which there were none.

    http://jerome23.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/why-is-christmas-day-december-25th/

    cj x

  12. Chris ~ Thank you for your response. I believe you gave some advice to me once about being more skeptical. So please do not take it personally when I say that I don’t think you looked into this with an open mind. I am sure you spent a lot of time studying this topic so I don’t know what to say…
    Have you ever heard of Saturnalia or Yule? You say that “…nothing to do with pagan festivals upon that date, of which there were none.” You are technically correct in this statement, but only because this date did not technically exist before they changed the calendar. ๐Ÿ™‚
    There is information all over the place on this topic that goes against what you are saying.
    I have to wonder if you are trying to pull the wool over my eyes or is it that you are the one with the woolly optical organs…

    P.S. Glad to have you back. ๐Ÿ™‚

  13. Chris Jensen Romer

    Hey Zeb,

    been over in Suffolk viisiting aged parents. Best source on this is Prof. Ronald Hutton’s magisterial book ‘Stations of the Sun’. Saturnalia never extended to December 25th – this is the period between Saturnalia and the New Year on January 1st which si curiously devoid of Roman festivals. I shall write more later this year on the whole issue, and yes I’m painfully aware that there are websites all over the place which make these claims.

    A very good (atheist as it happens) historian Tim O Neill writes much sense on these issues over on the great atheist site http://www.rational-skepticism.org/ where i was a mod for a while. The only real proof of a Roman Festival on this day is the Chronographia of 354 – you can find my lengthy analysis of that over on RichardDawkins forum, but I’ll dig out the links later.

    Peace,
    cj x

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