Random Atheist Question #17

How can Christians claim moral superiority through a book written thousands of years ago? We know more about the world today then the writers of the bible did. We know now that animals and humans are not that different.  And that its a bad idea to kill people who do not do things that way we want then to.

Is it morally superiority to destroy the planet because an old book says we can? Or is it morally superiority to use our knowledge and understanding to change the ways we do things and the way we think about things for the betterment of not only human kind, but all the life on the planet?

So the question is, what is better? To stick with old notions of egocentric superiority or to move on to new and better understandings?

Is a Christian who eats meat a couple times a day because “God” says they can in Genesis morally superior, even though they know that it means that other people around the world will starve and that sickness will ensue? Or is an atheist Vegetarian morally superior by not eating meat for the above mentioned reasons?

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10 responses to “Random Atheist Question #17

  1. q. How can Christians claim moral superiority through a book written thousands of years ago?

    a. Christians to not claim moral superiority. On the contrary, we claim that we are sinners saved by God’s grace. Christianity is against killing others.

    q. Is it morally superiority to destroy the planet because an old book says we can?

    a. The Bible instructs us to care for all creation and all creatures, not to destroy.
    q. So the question is, what is better? To stick with old notions of egocentric superiority or to move on to new and better understandings?
    a. The Bible does not teach man to think highly of himself. On the contrary, the Bible teaches man to humble himself.

    q. … even though they know that it means that other people around the world will starve and that sickness will ensue? Or is an atheist Vegetarian morally superior by not eating meat for the above mentioned reasons?

    a. Eating meat or not eating meat does not help others in other parts of the world. If eating only vegetables will help others in other parts of the word, count me in!

  2. Hello Russ,
    Thank you for you response.
    Everything you said is debatable and so in the end pointless to argue. 🙂
    I just wanted you to think about it.
    As for the meat/ no meat issue, a vegetable only diet can help others. One of the big problems with meat consumption is the amount of feed and water it takes to raise animals for food. If everyone on the earth ate like the average American, we would only have enough food for about half the worlds human population. But is we were all vegetarians we could feed the whole world plus 50%.
    Just think, no more starving children for no more steak dinners. Sounds like a good trade to me.

  3. Cows eat grass.

  4. Yes, some cows eat grass. You might be surprised how many cows never even see grass before their are slaughtered.
    I posted a link to a documentary called Earthlings.
    https://zebulonthered.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/earthlings-2/
    It is an hour and a half long, but worth watching.
    You said that “If eating only vegetables will help others in other parts of the world, count me in!” It will, but you need to see the truth.

  5. There is plenty of food in the world now. The reason that people starve is because godless men rise to power and oppress the poor.

    Feeding the poor and needy is commendable but it does not address that root of the problem. As long as people reject the God who created them and died for them mankind will suffer the natural consequences of their sin.

    For you have the poor with you always, and whenever you wish you may do them good; but Me you do not have always. – Jesus Christ

  6. Well said, Russ. I fully support every answer in his first comment. People can debate about anything, I guess… but his comment looks like truth to me.

    As for the morality of eating meat… all earthlings should sit down to a round table discussion and come to a consensus that no animal should eat meat. Then, once all those heathen carnivores die off, we’ll just shoot or poison all the excess herbivores with no predators. We could just ship all the carcasses to the middle of the Pacific and call it Buzzard Isle. Then we could make a movie called Planet of the Deer, where we are forced into slave labor, growing beans and squash for all the deer overlords. This whole concept is virtually flawless. 😛

    You’re a funny guy, Zeb.

  7. Russ – You prove that some people can’t see, even when they have eyes. Do some research…

    Bradley – I said nothing about getting carnivores to stop eating meat. That would be stupid. We are not carnivorous. We are omnivorous at best. Look at the human jaw structure and digestive enzymes. Look at the fact that heart disease and other chronic health problems are higher among people who eat meat than people who do not. Do you see a lot of fat lions with heart disease? No.

    Depending on the type of meat, it takes 6-17 times more land to feed the average American meat eater than to feed a vegetarian.

    I am not being funny, and if you think this is funny, that says more about you than me. 😉

    Take a minute and read this article.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet

    Have a good day, both of you.

  8. Wait… there are no fat lions with heart disease because there is no welfare for lions. When you start seeing prides successful at hunting share their food with less fortunate, instead of killing the males or whatever, then things would probably be different. Zoo lions are way bigger, for example.

    One could almost argue just as hard for total neglect of impoverished nations as a way of balancing that nation’s food needs. I’m not arguing for that… but I’m not really griping about the status-quo. I help others when I can.

    As for the comedy… species-ism. Really??!?!!? speciesism? Come on zeb… that’s funny. That video implies such a self-loathing of our humanity when we’re the ONLY species to every give 2 shakes about any other. Show me one of those hungry lions that spends millions to devise humane ways to euthanize a gazelle before it will eat it, and I’ll take it seriously. We devote millions and millions of acres for refuges and reserves… bah… come on zeb. You know… We really should create a quota for hiring horses for stage coach positions. Those new fangled robomatrons keep stealing all their jobs. I would maybe even marry a box turtle, if it wasn’t for that slow and lazy turtle-culture. They’re like animals. Come on zeb…

    But, we shouldn’t abuse them… that’s not very fitting of our God-given role as steward of His Earth.

  9. Bradley~ If you don’t want to see it, by all means don’t.
    Shall we talk about what is “funny” about the way you think the world works?
    Let’s not….

    Peace!

  10. 😀 I think skunks stink, too. Now, I’m not starting a hate group against them… but I don’t want my kids playing with “those type” of species. Much love zeb.

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